Why do you think my gui looks like mac os, instead of Windows? Windows is great, runs on different setups, and is great for gaming, but it lacks that sheen and fluidity of mac. Shoot Gnome and kde alone, look better and are more intuitive to use. Problem is Microsoft has the money, and Linux is so divided on how an os is supposed to look and use, that there is no cohesiveness too it. However, I love Linux and will never stop using it. Even if I had a mac, I would still use Linux. I don't like Microsoft at all. Their dirty tactics, force upgrades, and spying on us the way they do, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Windows will never be as good as XP. Big companies do not care about their customers and you could say that for mac. I feel like Apple cares enough to keep their walled garden as it is, shows they actually do care. My company has an Mac all in one with the 8k display, they do not use, and I am trying to get that thing. I don't care if it's not supported anymore. The last time I used a mac, was in elementary school. We had macs in our library and computer lab. When I went to middle school, that changed. They had all IBM machines with windows 95, and 3.1 on them. I did like the old IBM computers that were all in one, they reminded me of the mac g3, not as pretty of course lol. People say macs are expensive. I don't think they are, because even their lowest end models are top notch and they don't sell crap. You can go to Walmart and by a cheap laptop or pc, with similar specs. Thing is those computers won't be as fast as a mac, with the same specs. I have never bought a bad Iphone, even their cheapest models contain the same specs as the flag ship ones. Aside from screen resolution and camera's they run the same.

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I got an old iMac 5k display I think... couldn't do anything on the MACOS as it was unsupported and would not run any apps. Was slow as a kid waiting for Christmas to come since it uses a spinning disk. I installed Ubuntu on it, and it was pretty snappy then. I was going to use it for the kids to play on and learn coding, but the wife said the screen was too big and took up the whole kitchen :D. So, I had to bring it back upstairs to my office and it's just sitting here looking pretty.

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I heard there was a way around those updates, Biggie B told me about.

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I heard there was a way around those updates, Biggie B told me about.

Yup! Here is it. I use this on ALL of my Mac's cause they are a little older. Lets you run the newest MacOS if you want. Does it VERY, VERY well - flawless for mine at least.

https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/

I got an old iMac 5k display I think...

Which Make, Model and Year? iMac?

Thanks dude! I told my brother you had a work around lol. I don't know why he hates macs so much.

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He said it was a 2015 all in one. Not sure about anymore specifics.

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He said it was a 2015 all in one. Not sure about anymore specifics.

That's the exact machine I am on now! I use it all day, it's right next to my couch in the living room and use it as I watch TV and such. LOL

Model: iMac model# 17,1 - Retina 5k, 27-inch Late 2015
MacOS: Sonoma 14.8.4
Processor: 4GHZ Quad-Core Intel Core i7
Graphics: AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4GB
Memory: 16GB 1867 Max DDR3
Storage: 2TB Apple Hybrid Drive. (128GB is a SSD, the rest is a 7200RPM drive - acts as 1 drive) MacOS will automatically moves your most used programs onto the 128GB SSD portion of the drive speeding things up.. Remember, back in 2015 SSD's were serious $$$$ so they made Hybrid drives.

This is a VERY capable machine!! Maybe NOT the fastest, if you are running something from the spindle side of the drive, but you can still run ALL current Mac Apps even the newest versions of all of the Adobe Creative Suite programs, MS Office, Pro Tools etc etc!! Maybe not Call of Duty - LOL

My other 27" iMac is a late 2017 that has 48GB ram, 1TB external Thunderbolt 3 NVME m.2 SSD, 2TB Apple Hybrid Drive and kick as video card. Starting in 2017, and the introduction of the Thunderbolt 3 port, you could boot and run from a MUCH faster drive in modern times then the built in Hybrid drives. That is my power house system and I only turn that on when I need some serious power, like mixing 100 audio tracks in Pro Tools or Adobe shit, etc. I want it to last a long time. Both machines are running macOS Sonoma, even though Apple stop supporting them years ago with MacOS.

You can get old iMac's on eBay for not a lot. Knowing you can use OCLP is a game changer! Remember, you can runs Windows on these machines and Linux as well natively booting to the OS using BOOTCAMP. Can't run Win 11 unless you use a VM Program like Parallels. Win 11 runs great in Parallels on my 2017 iMac with all the ram I have and the external SSD. Boots up like in 15 secs or so.

Tell him that 2015 is complete shit and you'll take it off his hands - LOL!

I like pulling chains and pushing buttons. Probably part of the undiagnosed Tisms and ADHD. :D However, I do like putting together and piecing together machines instead of getting prebuilt crapware. I like having the freedom to choose and do what I want with something how I want to do it and not be locked in any specific OS or app stores. I have these same arguments between MACOS users and Windows users all the time. It's fun of the game and I enjoy the debating. I like tinkering and breaking things to find out how they work and how to fix them. Being locked down just takes the fun out of it for me.

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I like pulling chains and pushing buttons. Probably part of the undiagnosed Tisms and ADHD. :D However, I do like putting together and piecing together machines instead of getting prebuilt crapware. I like having the freedom to choose and do what I want with something how I want to do it and not be locked in any specific OS or app stores. I have these same arguments between MACOS users and Windows users all the time. It's fun of the game and I enjoy the debating. I like tinkering and breaking things to find out how they work and how to fix them. Being locked down just takes the fun out of it for me.

Totally agree. That was me for most of my life going back to high school with my first home computer, a Commodore 64...um 1982. As I got older, and the last decade or so, I was tired of building systems and dealing with a 100 different manufactures and 100 drivers and 100 warranties (not 100 - lol). I just wanted a computer that worked, was reliable, robust and everything was from one company, under one roof, and no fighting with drivers. It worked for me and I have been able to support hundreds of company networks, PC's etc, all running Windows/ Linux with my Mac.

Funny thing is. My son built his own monster gaming system, with serious specs! All from different manufactures for every single part. He called me one day from his University saying his PC would not boot up. I went over there (over a hr away) and his power supply was not working. It was less than a year old. I had to laugh my ass off cause the power supply for my 43 year old Commodore 64 was still working just fine. To get a RMA from his PS company he would have mail the damn thing in and wait for a replacement that was no option since he needed it for school. We just went to computer parts place and bought another one for almost $200 I think.

The 2015 and 2017 iMac's I have was used at my company until I took the home recently. They have been powered on for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Maybe if we have power outage they would be off but otherwise always on. So, they've been on for around a decade, give or take, and they are still running and without a single issue at all. That's impressive and money well spent. It's not for everyone, but these machines work great for what I need to do with them.

I just like being different. I want a mac because it's kind of taboo, just like running linux. You guys obviously know way more than me about computers. I just break stuff.

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For me breaking is part of learning. I dd not learn much reading books as I hate reading. I learned from just clicking around and doing things as well as listening to Indian guys teaching on YouTube :D

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Well, I guess that's how I learn too. BREAK STUFF! Like that Limp Biscuit song, break stuff. I tried learning some Java Script from those Indian guys, and I couldn't understand them at all. I actually love reading, but it has to be something I am interested in. I have read a lot of BBS and Synchronet documentation. It seems I didn't learn to much though.

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