On 30 Mar 2026, Max Stubbs said the following...

Shame the Supreme Court made a short
sighted ruling that Presidents don't
get to be held accountable under the
law for their actions, setting a
precedent that can only hurt all of us
purely so they can protect Trump.

Imagine if, like South Korea, we
actually believed in treating our
politicians like people equal under the
law, like our constitution says is
supposed to be the case. But we keep
makin carveouts, under both parties, to
keep them from experiencing the
consequence of their actions.

The Supreme court did not say that... Not even close... Presidents have immunity from the consequences of doing their JOB.

Barry killed 1000s of innocent people during drone strikes... since he would have argued he was doing so to protect the American people... he even drone struck a US citizen in Yemen... No Due Process just dead... and Barry would have argued he was protecting the people... and would have won.

If Barry was out robbing banks, not part of his Job description, he could be impeached, if still in office, and could have seen the legal system work.

Lets just say for a moment that Barry weaponized the government to go after the president coming into office... note this is not part of his job description... He can be held accountable.

I'm pretty well sick of it.

We all are... Join the MAGA team!!!

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On 30 Mar 2026, Max Stubbs said the following...

I'll accept that...

The original Bull-Moose platform had
the idea for recall elections for
elected officials and judges. Shame tht
idea never got any traction.

Ya, Teddy was a Tariff guy.

Elections have consequences... We have elections all the time. Every 2 years for the House, every 4 for the President and 6 for a Senate.

There will be an election this fall. Maybe Trump will loose the Hour and Senate.

Barry was given his 8 years... I didn't cry and complain.

Cut Trump some slack... Lets just say he gets his full 4 years in... He could have freed Iran, Venezuela and Cuba... Could you imagine??

Or he could go down as just an other politician and was busy blowing shit up.

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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeate
By: IB Joe to Max Stubbs on Tue Mar 31 2026 03:30 pm

The Supreme court did not say that..
Not even close... Presidents have
immunity from the consequences of do
their JOB.

Barry killed 1000s of innocent peopl
during drone strikes... since he wou
have argued he was doing so to prote
the American people... he even drone
struck a US citizen in Yemen... No D
Process just dead... and Barry would
have argued he was protecting the
people... and would have won.

If Barry was out robbing banks, not
part of his Job description, he coul
be impeached, if still in office, an
could have seen the legal system wor

Lets just say for a moment that Barr
weaponized the government to go afte
the president coming into office...
note this is not part of his job
description... He can be held
accountable.

The problem is, any President can now
claim ANYTHING they did was part of
their job. Imagine if Nixon said those
tapes were kept because they were
needed in the course of his work as
President to keep internal tabs and so
everyone can eat fuckin rocks, and the
court was like "yeah that checks out."

And yeah, if a presient kills a US
Citizen extrajudicially, regardless of
whether they deserve it, then I DO
think the President should have to
account for that. Just like Trump
should have to account for how his
policy decisions result in things like
ICE killin people or violatin the 4th
amendment, as a policy decision. That's
my point. The President was NEVER
supposed to be elevated above the
people. He is supposed to be OF the
people, and share our rights and
consequences. I don't give a fuck who
th president is, the executive should
never, NEVER get a free pass on
criminality. Wanna delay it till after
th presidency is over? That is a
conversation perhaps that could be had.
But ALL are meant to be equal under the
law, or else we don't have law at all.
These exceptions and immunities are an
insult to the American people and
should not be permitted. And I'd say
this for any presient of any party.
It's the same reason I think the
filibuster should be removed, despite
the fact it would allow the GOP to run
their agenda right now. Because the
most important thing in this country is
that we actually enforce our democratic
principles. These exceptions undermine
our system of government and are
actively harmful.



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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeate
By: IB Joe to Max Stubbs on Tue Mar 31 2026 03:43 pm

Barry was given his 8 years... I did
cry and complain.

Cut Trump some slack... Lets just sa
he gets his full 4 years in... He
could have freed Iran, Venezuela and
Cuba... Could you imagine??

Or he could go down as just an other
politician and was busy blowing shit
up.

1) I highly doubt that you didn't
complain. I would hope you'd complain
if you took issue with his policy, it's
the American way to do so.

2) I will NOT cut anyone slack. Our job
as American citizens is to hold
motherfuckers to the fire and burn
their feet if they don't deliver. Trump
is delivering pain and corruption, I
take issue with it, and I'm gonna bitch
as loudly as I humanly can until it
changes. As any patriot should when
they detest government policy in
general, and doubly so when presented
with a fascist.

3) Further, the worst thing you can do
when yo dissent is "wait and see." That
equates to "let him hurt people I think
he's hurting, maby he won't hurt so
many." If I believe what I belive, as I
do, how could I possibly accept that?


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On 01 Apr 2026, Max Stubbs said the following...

The problem is, any President can now
claim ANYTHING they did was part of
their job. Imagine if Nixon said those
tapes were kept because they were
needed in the course of his work as
President to keep internal tabs and so
everyone can eat fuckin rocks, and the
court was like "yeah that checks out."

What you just said is not true.

Like I said... Barry can't rob banks and claim he was just doing his job.

Barry, could argue that a drone strike killing a US Citizen, like he did, was part of his job.

The USSC just made it clear to all past and presidents that the constitution gives you immunity if you are acting in the best interest of the US.

And yeah, if a presient kills a US
Citizen extrajudicially, regardless of
whether they deserve it, then I DO
think the President should have to
account for that. Just like Trump
should have to account for how his
policy decisions result in things like
ICE killin people or violatin the 4th
amendment, as a policy decision. That's
my point. The President was NEVER
supposed to be elevated above the
people. He is supposed to be OF the
people, and share our rights and
consequences. I don't give a fuck who
th president is, the executive should
never, NEVER get a free pass on
criminality. Wanna delay it till after
th presidency is over? That is a
conversation perhaps that could be had.
But ALL are meant to be equal under the
law, or else we don't have law at all.
These exceptions and immunities are an
insult to the American people and
should not be permitted. And I'd say
this for any presient of any party.
It's the same reason I think the
filibuster should be removed, despite
the fact it would allow the GOP to run
their agenda right now. Because the
most important thing in this country is
that we actually enforce our democratic
principles. These exceptions undermine
our system of government and are
actively harmful.

Complain to your congressman then because Barry killed, who he said, was a terrorist with no due process.

Can you give me some examples of people exercising their 4th amendment rights and ICE did whatever...

From what I can see there are people who have been served their deportation orders and they have chose on to leave the country.

They are found, arrested and deported.

There is a catch, if YOU are traveling around with "Jose" when he's arrested and you're here illegally as well... Welp, you go home as well.

They say elections have consequences... Well, vote Kamala into office and she'll open the border again and let everyone in... maybe even fly the ones Trump kicked out back in.

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On 01 Apr 2026, Max Stubbs said the following...

1) I highly doubt that you didn't
complain. I would hope you'd complain
if you took issue with his policy, it's
the American way to do so.

I didn't. When Barry was in office I didn't watch the State of The Union... That's the Super Bowl for me.

I think Barry may be guilty of something that he cannot hide behind immunity.

Ask @RonL and he'll tell you my thoughts on this. MY ONLY focus is Election integrity, and to eventually get the Illegal Immigration fixed. I think Trump has some great ideas about bringing manufacturing back to the states and that's about it.

I know that we've had a past... but the future is looking bright.

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On 01 Apr 2026, Max Stubbs said the following...

2) I will NOT cut anyone slack. Our job
as American citizens is to hold
motherfuckers to the fire and burn
their feet if they don't deliver. Trump
is delivering pain and corruption, I
take issue with it, and I'm gonna bitch
as loudly as I humanly can until it
changes. As any patriot should when
they detest government policy in
general, and doubly so when presented
with a fascist.

Can you site some of this pain and corruption??


You need to educate yourself on Fascism... https://youtu.be/C_wWvpXZTTg?si=9q1QwK_0Wh_KEPIo

3) Further, the worst thing you can do
when yo dissent is "wait and see." That
equates to "let him hurt people I think
he's hurting, maby he won't hurt so
many." If I believe what I belive, as I
do, how could I possibly accept that?

hurt people?? The Citizens of the US, who he's the president of, or is he hurting the Illegals, whom his not the President of.

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IB Joe wrote to Max Stubbs <=-

What you just said is not true.

Which is normal for Leftoids.

Barry, could argue that a drone strike killing a US Citizen, like he
did, was part of his job.

The USSC just made it clear to all past and presidents that the constitution gives you immunity if you are acting in the best interest
of the US.

Careful. You know how using things like facts triggers Leftoids. :)

Can you give me some examples of people exercising their 4th amendment rights and ICE did whatever...

He can't - not without leaving out important facts.

From what I can see there are people who have been served their deportation orders and they have chose on to leave the country.

They are found, arrested and deported.

There is a catch, if YOU are traveling around with "Jose" when he's arrested and you're here illegally as well... Welp, you go home as
well.

The problem is that the Propaganda Ministry keeps leaving important facts out. Remember the "Maryland Man" hoax?

So the headline is "Jose, who has been living in the U.S. for 10 years was deported without due process", but the facts they leave out is that he had a deporation order, which means he had due process. But the Leftoids are programmed to think that, like citizen criminals, you get a trial AFTER you get caught.


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On 04 Apr 2026, Ron L. said the following...

So the headline is "Jose, who has been living in the U.S. for 10 years
was deported without due process", but the facts they leave out is that
he had a deporation order, which means he had due process. But the Leftoids are programmed to think that, like citizen criminals, you get a trial AFTER you get caught.

All aliens who have deportation judgments have had their due process. A2 judges and not A3 judges, as per the law.

They have had their day in court and they have had their appeal.

Time to go home...

BTW, I saw a Funny AF video this morning. A woman moved to Mexico with her family, I think her husband was Mexican... She wanted to escape the White Supremacy of the US. She was dark herself, non-Latino (More than likely African American, she said she wanted to be in a majority population rather than minority.

Well, she moved in November of last year... and she announced that she's moving back.

I guess American is not so bad.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

They have had their day in court and they have had their appeal.

Time to go home...

But Leftoids have been programmed to claim (I would use the word "think", but we all know that they can't do that) otherwise.

BTW, I saw a Funny AF video this morning. A woman moved to Mexico with her family, I think her husband was Mexican... She wanted to escape the White Supremacy of the US. She was dark herself, non-Latino (More than likely African American, she said she wanted to be in a majority population rather than minority.

Well, she moved in November of last year... and she announced that
she's moving back.

I saw that video reported on more than a few times. No surprise.

They are programmed to think that the U.S. is the S-hole and that all these other countries are socialist utopias. And back to the lack of self-awareness and no self-correction mechanism, they cannot do their own research to find out otherwise.

It takes something pretty large (in her case, her son getting ill) for them to face Reality - at least for a short period of time.


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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeate
By: IB Joe to Max Stubbs on Fri Apr 03 2026 05:22 pm

On 01 Apr 2026, Max Stubbs said the
following...

The problem is, any President c
now
claim ANYTHING they did was par
of
their job. Imagine if Nixon sai
those
tapes were kept because they we
needed in the course of his wor
as
President to keep internal tabs
and so
everyone can eat fuckin rocks,
the
court was like "yeah that check
out."

What you just said is not true.

Like I said... Barry can't rob banks
and claim he was just doing his job.

Barry, could argue that a drone stri
killing a US Citizen, like he did, w
part of his job.

The USSC just made it clear to all p
and presidents that the constitution
gives you immunity if you are acting
the best interest of the US.

And yeah, if a presient kills a
Citizen extrajudicially,
regardless of
whether they deserve it, then I
think the President should have
account for that. Just like Tru
should have to account for how
policy decisions result in thin
like
ICE killin people or violatin t
4th
amendment, as a policy decision
That's
my point. The President was NEV
supposed to be elevated above t
people. He is supposed to be OF
the
people, and share our rights an
consequences. I don't give a fu
who
th president is, the executive
should
never, NEVER get a free pass on
criminality. Wanna delay it til
after
th presidency is over? That is
conversation perhaps that could
had.
But ALL are meant to be equal
under the
law, or else we don't have law
all.
These exceptions and immunities
are an
insult to the American people a
should not be permitted. And I'
say
this for any presient of any
party.
It's the same reason I think th
filibuster should be removed,
despite
the fact it would allow the GOP
run
their agenda right now. Because
the
most important thing in this
country is
that we actually enforce our
democratic
principles. These exceptions
undermine
our system of government and ar
actively harmful.

Complain to your congressman then
because Barry killed, who he said, w
a terrorist with no due process.

Can you give me some examples of peo
exercising their 4th amendment righ
and ICE did whatever...

From what I can see there are people
who have been served their deportati
orders and they have chose on to lea
the country.

They are found, arrested and deporte

There is a catch, if YOU are traveli
around with "Jose" when he's arreste
and you're here illegally as well...
Welp, you go home as well.

They say elections have consequences
Well, vote Kamala into office and
she'll open the border again and let
everyone in... maybe even fly the on
Trump kicked out back in.

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1) Fuck Kamala, I knew she was cooked
early on. She was a NeoCon with a D
next to her name.

2) If you think for one second that any
sittin president wouldn't claim that
ANY action taken while in office was
"done while serving in the national
interest" I have a trenchcoat full of
watche to sell you, and perhaps some
meteor insurance.

3) 4th amdenment specifically is a
protection againt unreasonable search
and seizure, in particular without
warrants. ICE has been both raiding
houses they have NO warrants for, as
well as writing their own
administrative warrants which do not
have legal authority at all to breach
homes, and straight up have refused to
get judicial warrants, which DO enable
tht authority, because it is
inconvenient for them. The government
also explicitly put out a memo
declaring this as official policy.
There were several congressional
hearings about this, you're welcome to
go investigate this.

And of course there is the blatant
racial profiling which has been gettin
US citizens and legal residents just as
often as its picking up the
undocumented, and in all cases ICE and
CBP have been documented beatin people,
throwing them into walls, denying
offers to show identification, etc.

This is not how the land of the Free
should ever operate. Just because yo
are in a bubble where yo are ignorant
to these things happening does not mean
they are not happening.

And just because it happens to people
yo don't like or respect doesn't make
it justified.

I obviously also don't think even
illegal immigrants should be handled
lik that, because these rights apply to
all in American jurisdiction, period,
so as to protect the rights for all of
us; to not do so is to give the
government the power to deny your
ability to prove you belong here at
all.

But I know those are't people you cats
care about. But know that this is
happenin to your fellow citizens, and
this is Trump doing both an ethnic
cleansing and a way for him to go after
his perceived political enemies, people
like me who didn't vote for him.






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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeate
By: IB Joe to Max Stubbs on Fri Apr 03 2026 05:28 pm

think Trump has some great ideas abo
bringing manufacturing back to the
states and that's about it.

I do think he had a point when it comes
to how the US has been hollowed out
manufacturing wise, and that was a
bipartisan project. But as best as I
can tell beyond tariffs and weak
promiises of new factories that cannot
be finished before his presidency ends,
he's not got a solid plan for that.

Trump has a habit of doing exactly 1-2
things where I go, "actually that's
reasonable" like the creation of Space
Force, and 10,000 things where I go
"this dude hate me, my family, this
country, and everything we stand for."


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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeate
By: IB Joe to Max Stubbs on Fri Apr 03 2026 05:36 pm

Can you site some of this pain and
corruption??

I have gone over the things I think are
horrific multiple times in this board,
you already know my stance, in detail.

And with Trump, you can damn near spin
a roulette wheel and pick a topic he's
fucking up. Immigration, the defecit,
the SEVERAL military actions, in
particular the Iran war, AI government
surveillance, his various crypto
schemes for personal enrichment, ending
of support and safety programs, ending
of American soft power globally,
weaking of NATO ties, the inept FBI
investigations, bein dog-walked by
Israel, the largely disastrous tariffs,
the damage he's causing farmers due to
his tariffs and his dealings with
Argentina, his undermining of
elections, and more. I mean take your
pick. Even by republican standards he
is a disaster. The only two people
truly happy with this administration
are Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio,
because they get to play war again.




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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeate
By: Ron L. to IB Joe on Sat Apr 04 2026 08:19 am

due process. But the Leftoids are
programmed to think that, like citiz
criminals, you get a trial AFTER you
get caught.

No one is upset where people are gettin
lawful deportation orders, with no
stays or conditions, getting sent back
to where they are from. People ARE
upset at people getting deported
WITHOUT those orders, or where the
conditions are violated and people who
in many cases did not commit violent
crimes of any kind are sent into place
like CECOT, or Liberia. There is a way
in which these things are supposed to
function, and Trump has opted to just
not do that.

There are also cases where people have
been detained unlawfully, due to having
citizenship, legal resident or refugee
status, the judge orders them released
immediately, but ICE instead waits 48
hours-weeks or in a few cases months to
release those people from their
detention centers. In some cases, in
particular Minnesota, they also
intentionally let them out in the
middle of nowhere. ICE for example has
had a habit of releasing detainees out
in the middle of the woods outside of
the city; activists have had to have
people go out and search for people to
recover them and take them home.
ICE could have just let them out on the
main city street; they deliberately
choose to inflict maximum challenge
because like you, they are degenerate
scum that hate their fellow citizens.

You guys could choose to find this
information. You don't see it because
you know you can't justify it for long
once you have. But the video is out
there, the accounts are out there. The
lawlessness is known and only the most
dedicated MAGA are holding on to the
idea that this is just behavior for our
government to engage in.




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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeate
By: Ron L. to IB Joe on Sat Apr 04 2026 08:19 am

I ignore Max since he's a Leftoid bo

You can ignore me all you want. Doesn't
mean I'll ignore you.


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Re: Re: Has Iran been defeate
By: Ron L. to IB Joe on Sun Apr 05 2026 08:50 am

They are programmed to think that th
U.S. is the S-hole and that all thes
other countries are socialist utopia

OR the real answer is that we think
people like you want to drag this
country ass backwards to when it was
worse for 90% of citizens, and we
believe that American is good, but it
can be better. You know, the Progress
part of Progressive. It's literally in
the name.


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