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    From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to All on Wednesday, April 08, 2026 14:32:30
    If hpt exports/scans a message from the BBS and it does *not* have an ftn origin line or kludges, shouldn't it add them? Am I maybe missing a config setting that would cause this to happen?

    I do have an origin configured in the config file.

    Thanks!
    Mike
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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, April 08, 2026 18:17:52
    Hey Mike!

    On Wed, Apr 08 2026 14:32:30 -0500, you wrote:

    If hpt exports/scans a message from the BBS and it does *not* have
    an ftn origin line or kludges, shouldn't it add them? Am I maybe
    missing a config setting that would cause this to happen?

    I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think so? Wherever the message is written should be adding the tear/origin line. Most BBS softwares will append this simply if you set the specific area to echomail, rather than local. Is this not possible?

    Or, are you accessing your BBS message base with an offline reader or something? I don't know all the details so I'm going to ask as many questions as I can. ;)

    I do have an origin configured in the config file.

    I want to say that this option only configures an origin line for messages created with hpt (ie: using hpt post), but I could be wrong on that. I guess I never used hpt to add those, as anything I've used over the years has done it itself.

    Now I'm interested in what BBS software doesn't do this..?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, April 08, 2026 18:29:57
    Hey Mike!

    On Wed, Apr 08 2026 14:32:30 -0500, you wrote:

    I do have an origin configured in the config file.

    After a little more digging, "Origin" in hpt.texi is defined as:

    Add this Origin to hpt messages: post, reports about new areas created. This statement cannot be repeated.

    I do notice that FMail can be configured to force a tear/origin line, though. So maybe it's a per-tosser thing.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/107 to NICK BOEL on Thursday, April 09, 2026 10:31:27
    After a little more digging, "Origin" in hpt.texi is defined as:

    Add this Origin to hpt messages: post, reports about new areas created. This statement cannot be repeated.

    Yeah, I assumed that "post" meant posts "on the bbs" but maybe it only
    means posts that hpt originates.

    I also assumed that the last else below, since it has no module specified, would cover it:

    if "[module]"=="hpt"
    Origin High Portable Tosser at Project Scorpio
    elseif "[module]"=="htick"
    Origin High Portable Ticker at Project Scorpio
    else
    Origin Project Scorpio TEST
    endif

    There again, that could only be for "other" things that hpt does. I think maybe in this case that is the safe assumption and I should go with it. ;)

    I do notice that FMail can be configured to force a tear/origin line, though. So maybe it's a per-tosser thing.

    I know squish for DOS and OS/2 had an Origin line setting, but I am not
    sure if my systems were ever envoking it since the shim program usually
    added one before it got to squish. Crashmail 2 also has one but I don't
    know in what instances it applies it.

    I am pretty sure that, for synchronet, sbbsecho adds the origin as part of exporting the messages. I have never noticed my own origin line showing up locally on local posts. That said, based on past conversations in FIDOTEST,
    I am pretty certain the BBS software should add it (along with several of
    the kludges) and not count on the tosser to pick up any slack.

    Thanks!

    Mike


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