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    From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5001 to Dmitry Protasoff on Thursday, September 10, 2026 18:14:54
    Hello, Dmitry!

    How about making the Netmail, Sent and Starred folders always visible, even when there are no unread messages?

    And maybe allow some groups to stay visible even when "Unread groups only" is enabled?

    Carlos

    --- FidoMailMobile/0.1.2+80 (Android)
    * Origin: cyberiada (2:341/234.5001)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5001 to Dmitry Protasoff on Thursday, September 10, 2026 18:52:16
    Another one:

    When posting a reply, use the charset of the replied-to message. Maybe optional (general or per-area setting).

    WinPoint does it this way, and the new GoldED+ Unicode edition has a config setting to enable it.

    Carlos

    --- FidoMailMobile/0.1.2+80 (Android)
    * Origin: cyberiada (2:341/234.5001)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Thursday, September 10, 2026 19:37:53
    Hello Carlos,

    On 10 Sep 26 18:52, you wrote to Dmitry Protasoff:

    When posting a reply, use the charset of the replied-to message. Maybe optional (general or per-area setting).

    WinPoint does it this way,

    I certainly wouldn't follow Winpoint in this. Winpoint uses "IBMPC" as the default. Certainly not a good idea to be forced to answer with the same.

    and the new GoldED+ Unicode edition has a config setting to enable it.

    Yes, with the new Golded it is an OPTION. Off by default. With that I can live.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20260904
    * Origin: Nieuw Schoord (2:280/5555)
  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100 to Carlos Navarro on Thursday, September 10, 2026 18:08:52
    Hello Carlos!

    In a message of 10 Sep 26 18:52, Carlos wrote to Dmitry:

    When posting a reply, use the charset of the replied-to message.
    Maybe optional (general or per-area setting).

    Hm, but why? Any real-life cases? By my understanding, the charset should reflect the author's charset.

    Fidomail (not Mobile) now has a feature to automatically "downgrade" the message's charset to ASCII if all characters are ASCII-representable, but why use another user's charset?


    See you,
    dp.
    --- FidoMail v0.1.4-30-g4c233b9
    * Origin: livin' on the edge (2:5001/100)
  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100 to Carlos Navarro on Thursday, September 10, 2026 19:30:26
    Hello Carlos!

    In a message of 10 Sep 26 18:14, Carlos wrote to Dmitry:

    How about making the Netmail, Sent and Starred folders always
    visible, even when there are no unread messages?

    Done!

    And maybe allow some groups to stay visible even when "Unread
    groups only" is enabled?

    Let me think a bit about it..


    See you,
    dp.
    --- FidoMail v0.1.4-30-g4c233b9
    * Origin: livin' on the edge (2:5001/100)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5001 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thursday, September 17, 2026 18:30:53
    10 Sep 26 19:37, Michiel van der Vlist -> Carlos Navarro:

    WinPoint does it this way,

    I certainly wouldn't follow Winpoint in this. Winpoint uses "IBMPC"
    as the default. Certainly not a good idea to be forced to answer
    with the same.

    I mean using the same charset, but not necessarily the same CHRS kludge. If the replied-to message has IBMPC, the reply would carry CP437 (that is, the contrary of what WinPoint does).

    and the new GoldED+ Unicode edition has a config setting to enable
    it.

    Yes, with the new Golded it is an OPTION. Off by default. With that
    I can live.

    Yes, if this is implemented, it could be off by default.

    Carlos

    --- FidoMailMobile/0.1.7+88 (Android)
    * Origin: cyberiada (2:341/234.5001)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5001 to Dmitry Protasoff on Thursday, September 17, 2026 18:30:59
    10 Sep 26 18:08, Dmitry Protasoff -> Carlos Navarro:

    When posting a reply, use the charset of the replied-to message.
    Maybe optional (general or per-area setting).

    Hm, but why? Any real-life cases? By my understanding, the charset
    should reflect the author's charset.

    Spanish-speaking echos. People use different charsets, mostly CP437, CP850, LATIN-1 or, more recently, UTF-8.

    Many FTN editors -especially older ones, but also some newer ones- can't translate properly from those charsets to the user's one, or don't translate at all. So, non-ASCII chars (accented vocals, ñ, ¡, ¿) get mangled. They can still understand what they are reading, but when they reply, the quoted text contains mangled chars and messages look ugly.

    Replying in the recipient's charset would improve communication with users that use certain FTN software, and make messages more readable in general.

    I would like that everyone moved to UTF-8, but this is Fidonet and progress is slow... :-)

    Anyway, it was just a suggestion. If you prefer not to add such an option, that's fine with me.

    (BTW I had considered writing some scripts for converting charsets in PKTs to/from selected points in my node. For example, AfterShock can only read/write CP437/CP866, HotdogEd can write in several charsets but cannot translate when reading... But with FidoMail I no longer need that. ;-))

    Carlos

    --- FidoMailMobile/0.1.7+88 (Android)
    * Origin: cyberiada (2:341/234.5001)
  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100 to Carlos Navarro on Thursday, September 17, 2026 18:03:04
    Hello Carlos!

    In a message of 17 Sep 26 18:30, Carlos wrote to Dmitry:

    Anyway, it was just a suggestion. If you prefer not to add such an
    option, that's fine with me.

    I'm ok with adding any feature, but I need to understand how it should be implemented and why ;)

    Sometimes a more advanced algorithm could be implemented instead of adding a new option into settings menu.

    But I'm very bad at understanding what's happening in ESP.* echoes with charsets!

    Let me do some investigations and I'll come back to you with something.

    See you,
    dp.
    --- FidoMail v0.1.4-106-g1b78d2f
    * Origin: livin' on the edge (2:5001/100)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5001 to Dmitry Protasoff on Friday, September 18, 2026 17:53:41
    17 Sep 26 18:03, Dmitry Protasoff -> Carlos Navarro:

    But I'm very bad at understanding what's happening in ESP.* echoes
    with charsets!

    Let me do some investigations and I'll come back to you with
    something.

    I was going to offer my help with this, but you were faster! :-)

    Carlos

    --- FidoMailMobile/0.1.8+89 (Android)
    * Origin: cyberiada (2:341/234.5001)