So apparently Trump has offered to pay every adult US citizen a
$5000 'Dividend' if the republicans win the November elections..

I assume he's not talking his own money since this would cost
something like $1.23 TRILLION and, at that rate, I doubt it's
coming from even just the Republican Party so it makes you
wonder where the public will assume this money is coming from?

Obviously if this were even remotely legal, the funds would
just increase the US debt to later be a burden on taxpayers so
it's really their own money.. Get it now and repay it later..

But it's just another of those things that you have to stop
and scratch your head about..

Another Trump first..
Publicly buying votes with taxpayer money.. B)

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So apparently Trump has offered to pay every adult US citizen a
$5000 'Dividend' if the republicans win the November elections..

I had not heard this one yet!

I assume he's not talking his own money since this would cost
something like $1.23 TRILLION and, at that rate, I doubt it's
coming from even just the Republican Party so it makes you
wonder where the public will assume this money is coming from?

I suspect it would be restricted to registered Republican adults. :D

Obviously if this were even remotely legal, the funds would
just increase the US debt to later be a burden on taxpayers so
it's really their own money.. Get it now and repay it later..

But it's just another of those things that you have to stop
and scratch your head about..

I am sure it will be as true a promise as the DOGE refunds and several other things that have never happened.

Another Trump first..
Publicly buying votes with taxpayer money.. B)

I am not at all surprised at this point, unfortunately. :(

Mike

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Hello Rob Mccart!

** On Friday 11.09.26 - 05:53, Rob Mccart wrote to ALL:

So apparently Trump has offered to pay every adult US citizen a
$5000 'Dividend' if the republicans win the November elections..

"Trump's $5,000 midterm 'dividend' is at least his fourth promise of cash for all Americans. None
came to pass."

"First it was a "DOGE dividend." Then it was a promise of tariff checks. Then government healthcare
refunds were on the way. Now, President Trump is promising Americans another payout, this time if
Republicans win in the coming midterm elections.

But it's just another of those things that you have to stop
and scratch your head about..

Another Trump first..
Publicly buying votes with taxpayer money.. B)

I certainly HOPE Americans think about that (false) promise.

T has truly turned into a clown.


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So apparently Trump has offered to pay every adult US citizen a
$5000 'Dividend' if the republicans win the November elections..

"Trump's $5,000 midterm 'dividend' is at least his fourth promise of cash for all Americans. None
came to pass."

"First it was a "DOGE dividend." Then it was a promise of tariff checks. Then government healthcare
refunds were on the way. Now, President Trump is promising Americans another payout, this time if
Republicans win in the coming midterm elections.

He has done it so many times I couldn't remember what the other ones were. Thanks for the reminder.

Mike




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Hello Mike!

** On Saturday 12.09.26 - 14:50, you wrote to me:

He has done it so many times I couldn't remember what the other ones
were. Thanks for the reminder.

I wonder if T followers will be so gullible as to believe him this time too. And.. while they are among the many millions of citizens struggling with high costs of everything, I wonder if they will still actually vote for him.
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So apparently Trump has offered to pay every adult US citizen a
$5000 'Dividend' if the republicans win the November elections..

I had not heard this one yet!

I wondered if the publicity would be widespread down there yet.
I suppose it's a bigger story up here since we are more removed
from things there and find a lot of what Trump does 'entertaining'.

I suspect it would be restricted to registered Republican adults. :D

The published information about it did not suggest that.
After all, he's losing so many Repubican voters he'll need to
pick up some Democrats if he can.. B)

It wasn't even linked to voters. It was to every adult if they
win a majority in November mid-terms.

I am sure it will be as true a promise as the DOGE refunds and

>several other things that have never happened.

Yes, he talks about all the good he's doing but all most people
see on both sides of the border is higher prices.

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"Trump's $5,000 midterm 'dividend' is at least his fourth promise of

>cash for all Americans. None came to pass."

It seems a lot of what he promises tends to vanish once it comes time
for the 'regular' people to reap any benefits..

I certainly HOPE Americans think about that (false) promise.

T has truly turned into a clown.

I think he greatly wants to be remembered as one of the biggest
presidential names in history, and he may well be, just not in
the way he hopes to be remembered..

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He has done it so many times I couldn't remember what the other ones were. Thanks for the reminder.

I wonder if T followers will be so gullible as to believe him this time too.

To be honest, I am not sure that the most fervent ones believe him or even care that it won't ever happen. To be real honest, some of them just want to be on the side that they perceive is "winning." Should he ever stop "winning," those that won't be likely to start chanting "cheating" will probably stop supporting him (at least publicly).

And.. while they are among the many millions of citizens struggling with high
costs of everything, I wonder if they will still actually vote for him.

In this election, they won't be voting for him so much as the politicians who support him and/or are endorsed by him.

The ardent followers will. Those who are single-issue (like Pro-Life) will. I think his side has lost a lot of farmers and others. Since there is no one at the top of the other ticket, like there was in 2024, there won't be anyone to cast votes against this time, which won't help his cause.


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So apparently Trump has offered to pay every adult US citizen a
$5000 'Dividend' if the republicans win the November elections..

I had not heard this one yet!

I wondered if the publicity would be widespread down there yet.
I suppose it's a bigger story up here since we are more removed
from things there and find a lot of what Trump does 'entertaining'.

I am sure I just missed it. A quick search shows that the Associated Press, and other outlets, did cover it 3 days ago.

I suspect it would be restricted to registered Republican adults. :D

The published information about it did not suggest that.
After all, he's losing so many Republican voters he'll need to
pick up some Democrats if he can.. B)

I don't see that happening. :D He might pick up some so-called Independents that are really Republicans and/or MAGA. I would think a Democrat would need to be really upset with their candidate to cross over. I would suspect them to be more likely to not vote if that is the case.

It wasn't even linked to voters. It was to every adult if they
win a majority in November mid-terms.

I see that now. Will never happen, even if they win.

I am sure it will be as true a promise as the DOGE refunds and

>several other things that have never happened.

Yes, he talks about all the good he's doing but all most people
see on both sides of the border is higher prices.

Sometimes when I listen to him I think he is talking about things that were accomplished during his first term. He did accomplish some things before COVID hit. Gas prices were down from where they'd been before, and prices on most things in general were either down or steady. That was a long time ago, though, and most of what he's accomplished since 2024 hasn't really helped the average American much.

The exceptions being if you were smart and started putting money in a 401K (or other investments) many moons ago, or if you have money to put in the stock market and have been able to keep up with what the insider trader congresspeople/other administration members are buying and selling.

Mike

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I suspect it would be restricted to registered Republican adults. :D

The published information about it did not suggest that.
After all, he's losing so many Republican voters he'll need to
pick up some Democrats if he can.. B)

I don't see that happening. :D He might pick up some so-called

>Independents that are really Republicans and/or MAGA. I would
>think a Democrat would need to be really upset with their candidate
>to cross over. I would suspect them to be more likely to not vote
>if that is the case.

I assume these mid-term elections are public voting, not just party
members? There may be a lot of people, the type who normally might
not vote at all, that may vote this time in the hopes of the $5000.

Sometimes when I listen to him I think he is talking about things

>that were accomplished during his first term. He did accomplish
>some things before COVID hit.
>Gas prices were down from where they'd been before, and prices
>on most things in general were either down or steady. That was
>a long time ago, though, and most of what he's accomplished since
>2024 hasn't really helped the average American much.

It would have to be looked into closely but I suspect a lot of
those 'improvements' would have been happening at that time
regardless of who was in power.

The exceptions being if you were smart and started putting money

>in a 401K (or other investments) many moons ago, or if you have
>money to put in the stock market and have been able to keep up
>with what the insider trader congresspeople/other administration
>members are buying and selling.

A lot of what happens down there is echoed in Canada. Going back
4 or 5 years I'd have been happy to get an 8% return on my retirement
savings but the past 2 years I've found myself looking at a month's
return and being disappointed that it only came out to 12% per annum.

Most full year figures work out closer to 16% or better, so the
manipulations down there, which are likely doing good things for
the better off people, are also doing the same thing up here.
The rich get richer..

It's just unfortunate that most people in the USA don't realize
that every time Trump talks about making $200 Billion in tariffs,
that it was not paid by countries selling to the USA, it is paid
by the consumers in the USA.. Word has it that they are starting
to see the truth these days though, likely why word has it that
Trump's approval rating in the USA is down to about 12%.

They say your Bond market is in terrible shape as well, and
that affects what the average person pays for loans from their
local banks and such, and the lumber tariffs are increasing the
cost of building houses as well and then there's the million
things that expensive steel and especially aluminum will hit..

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I don't see that happening. :D He might pick up some so-called

>Independents that are really Republicans and/or MAGA. I would
>think a Democrat would need to be really upset with their candidate
>to cross over. I would suspect them to be more likely to not vote
>if that is the case.

I assume these mid-term elections are public voting, not just party members? There may be a lot of people, the type who normally might
not vote at all, that may vote this time in the hopes of the $5000.

These are the general elections so, yes, they are open to all registered voters. Those $5k voters would not likely be registered Democrats. They'd also not likely be anyone who hasn't yet received any of the other promised rebates/refunds/windfalls.

Now, if Trump was a Democrat promising something free then, yeah, the suckers on the Democrat side would likely vote for him, while the Republic suckers would avoid him. The pull of suckers up for grabs has to come out of the middle somewhere, just as it does in any US election.

The key will be to get enough people who *don't* like the policies of the congresspeople who support him to get out and vote. That is the problem -- they don't like what Trump is up to but the candidates from the other side don't motivate them to vote.... that is very likely how Trump got his second term.

Here we have a couple of seats up that, if they had a strong candidate running, could be open to a flip... in one case, there is no incumbent. However, the Democrats chose Democratic Socialist-leaning candidates during their primaries, and people in this area... especially non-MAGA Republicans... are not likely to support them.

Many of the seats are in areas that only ever vote one way or the other and are not likely to flip, but others are not.

Sometimes when I listen to him I think he is talking about things

>that were accomplished during his first term. He did accomplish
>some things before COVID hit.
>Gas prices were down from where they'd been before, and prices
>on most things in general were either down or steady. That was
>a long time ago, though, and most of what he's accomplished since
>2024 hasn't really helped the average American much.

It would have to be looked into closely but I suspect a lot of
those 'improvements' would have been happening at that time
regardless of who was in power.

Some, maybe, but others didn't happen while Obama was President, but then did once Trump was. For example, the Obama administration had policies that were not fossil-fuel friendly, which didn't help the cost of gas prices. Gas prices, in turn, affect other commodity prices. Those policies also didn't help the cost of electric.

If you changed your "regardless of who" to "regardless of which Republican," that might be more accurate, though.

A lot of what happens down there is echoed in Canada. Going back
4 or 5 years I'd have been happy to get an 8% return on my retirement savings but the past 2 years I've found myself looking at a month's
return and being disappointed that it only came out to 12% per annum.

Most full year figures work out closer to 16% or better, so the manipulations down there, which are likely doing good things for
the better off people, are also doing the same thing up here.
The rich get richer..

Yep!

It's just unfortunate that most people in the USA don't realize
that every time Trump talks about making $200 Billion in tariffs,
that it was not paid by countries selling to the USA, it is paid
by the consumers in the USA.. Word has it that they are starting
to see the truth these days though, likely why word has it that
Trump's approval rating in the USA is down to about 12%.

Most Americans I talk to do know that regarding the tariffs. It is mostly those folks in the "12%," and those immediately adjacent to them, that either don't understand or just don't care.

They say your Bond market is in terrible shape as well, and
that affects what the average person pays for loans from their
local banks and such, and the lumber tariffs are increasing the
cost of building houses as well and then there's the million
things that expensive steel and especially aluminum will hit..

I will go back to something you said earlier... regardless of who is in charge... on this one. If as an organization or government you don't pay your bills, your bond rating will eventually suffer which, in the case of the Federal government, will affect the market for bonds. The Trump admin isn't doing much that would fix it, so he is as good a person to blame as anyone.

Mike

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I assume these mid-term elections are public voting, not just party members? There may be a lot of people, the type who normally might
not vote at all, that may vote this time in the hopes of the $5000.

These are the general elections so, yes, they are open to all registered vote

> Those $5k voters would not likely be registered Democrats. They'd also not
>kely be anyone who hasn't yet received any of the other promised rebates/refu
>/windfalls.

Lord knows when the general public is voting there will be no
shortage of idiots voting badly or voting how others tell them to.

The key will be to get enough people who *don't* like the policies of

>the congress people who support him to get out and vote. That is the
>problem -- they don't like what Trump is up to but the candidates from
>the other side don't motivate them to vote.... that is very likely how
>Trump got his second term.

Trump didn't do the obvious damage his first term as he is now.
I think (hope?) a lot more people will be voting this time around.

Here we have a couple of seats up that, if they had a strong candidate runnin

>could be open to a flip... in one case, there is no incumbent. However, the
>ocrats chose Democratic Socialist-leaning candidates during their primaries,
> people in this area... especially non-MAGA Republicans... are not likely to
>port them.

I've always said the best candidates were either left leaning 'rights'
or right leaning 'lefts' so they don't do anything too radical..

Sometimes when I listen to him I think he is talking about things

>that were accomplished during his first term. He did accomplish
>some things before COVID hit.
>Gas prices were down from where they'd been before, and prices
>on most things in general were either down or steady.

It would have to be looked into closely but I suspect a lot of
those 'improvements' would have been happening at that time
regardless of who was in power.

Some, maybe, but others didn't happen while Obama was President,

>but then did once Trump was. For example, the Obama administration
>had policies that were not fossil-fuel friendly, which didn't help
>the cost of gas prices. Gas prices, in turn, affect other commodity
>prices. Those policies also didn't help the cost of electric.

Yes, a lot of people would say better to have more pollution and
climate issues if it will lower the cost of gas..

I'm actually not a Global Warming nut. It has happened many times
in the past and I wouldn't bet we are causing anything more than
a slight speed-up in it hitting this time. Plus if (in theory) we
are the cause, we could stop using oil completely and it would
take 75 to 100 years to make any difference, and we all know that
AI will have bumped us all off long before then.. B)

They say your Bond market is in terrible shape as well, and
that affects what the average person pays for loans from their
local banks and such, and the lumber tariffs are increasing the
cost of building houses as well and then there's the million
things that expensive steel and especially aluminum will hit..

I will go back to something you said earlier... regardless of who

>is in charge... on this one. If as an organization or government
>you don't pay your bills, your bond rating will eventually suffer
>which, in the case of the Federal government, will affect the
>market for bonds. The Trump admin isn't doing much that would
>fix it, so he is as good a person to blame as anyone.

Given the huge debt and inflation going on it's more that the rest
of the world is probably not confident investing in the USA to pay
down the debt/deficit is a safe bet the way things are going.

Trump is now talking about stopping dealing with the EU since
Canada is talking about closer ties with them. He's back to
saying Canada is the worst country in the world to deal with
and that we have been ripping off the USA for over 50 years..

Meanwhile almost all states (47 or so) have Canada in their top
three trading partners (about 2/3 have us as number one) so
is he suggesting that Americans are so stupid that almost all
of them will deal with a country ripping them off?

Obviously there is only one reason to deal with another country..
They are offering you things cheaper, better or different than your
own country can supply/create them. The business is not a gift..

And we buy a huge amount from you too, so it's always been a
mutual partnership with advantges to us both. If tariffs bring
business into the USA, it is because they have forced prices up
enough to make it profitable to do things there now.. In other
words, tariffs will create permanent higher costs for many items..

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Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

I suspect it would be restricted to registered Republican adults. :D

The published information about it did not suggest that.
After all, he's losing so many Repubican voters he'll need to
pick up some Democrats if he can.. B)

There will *never* be a $5000 payment. Put it right alongside the
promised tariff checks, Obamacare refund checks and DOGE "savings"
checks that never appeared.


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Trump is now talking about stopping dealing with the EU since
Canada is talking about closer ties with them. He's back to
saying Canada is the worst country in the world to deal with
and that we have been ripping off the USA for over 50 years..

Whoever the next President is will have a lot of butt-kissing to do in order to repair the damage he is doing. At this rate, we will have no allies, except maybe the UK, left.

Obviously there is only one reason to deal with another country..
They are offering you things cheaper, better or different than your
own country can supply/create them. The business is not a gift..

Keeping in mind also that some of them have access to natural resources that we do not... I guess that'd be covered by "different."

And we buy a huge amount from you too, so it's always been a
mutual partnership with advantages to us both. If tariffs bring
business into the USA, it is because they have forced prices up
enough to make it profitable to do things there now.. In other
words, tariffs will create permanent higher costs for many items..

Except we are letting all of our farm land be repurposed for data centers and other development. We need someone to keep growing food for us. ;)

Mike

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There will *never* be a $5000 payment. Put it right alongside the
promised tariff checks, Obamacare refund checks and DOGE "savings"
checks that never appeared.

RATS! And here I was counting on all of that free government moo-lah to build a supercomputer to run my BBS on.

LOL!

Mike

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Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS <=-

I think he greatly wants to be remembered as one of the biggest presidential names in history, and he may well be, just not in
the way he hopes to be remembered..

He certainly seems to have it out for Kennedy's legacy - paving the
Rose garden, bringing the Kennedy Center to the brink of ruin...

Paving the Rose Garden was awful, and t-totally stupid. From the way it sounds, though, the Kennedy Center may have already had some troubles going on, and maybe no one wanted to address them because Kennedy's name is on the building.

Mike

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Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

I assume these mid-term elections are public voting, not just party members? There may be a lot of people, the type who normally might
not vote at all, that may vote this time in the hopes of the $5000.

Primary elections are used by parties to determine the eventual
candidate and are limited to their respective parties.

While that is true here in Kentucky and in other states, that unfortunately is not true in all of them. Open primaries, where Independents can vote, and where Democrats can elect to vote on the Republican ticket instead of their own (and vise-versa) in hopes of getting a weak candidate nominated are part of the reason that MAGA got so much power. Come general election time, their candidates turned out not to be so weak after all. :(

There's a twitter account called the "Pelosi Stock watch" where they evaluate Nancy Pelosi's stock trades and compare her portfolio against
the market.

Not that she's the only one, it's an endemic problem.

She was certainly the most well-publicized one when this secret first got out. I believe the fact that nothing happened to her made things much, much worse as others who were not already doing it then knew they could start doing it.

I like Scott Galloway's take - pay them $1,000,000 a year and forbid
them from owning stock while they're in office. Now, let's make campaign finance a fixed stipend as well...

One million a year is way, way TOO MUCH. They are no where near worth that much. The number should be less than six figures.

Mike


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RESEND for Rob - I think you missed this one

* Originally on: 17-Sep-2026 03:23
* Originally by: Kurt Weiske

Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS <=-

I think he greatly wants to be remembered as one of the biggest presidential names in history, and he may well be, just not in
the way he hopes to be remembered..

He certainly seems to have it out for Kennedy's legacy - paving the
Rose garden, bringing the Kennedy Center to the brink of ruin...


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... and this one!...

* Originally on: 17-Sep-2026 03:23
* Originally by: Kurt Weiske

Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

I assume these mid-term elections are public voting, not just party members? There may be a lot of people, the type who normally might
not vote at all, that may vote this time in the hopes of the $5000.

Primary elections are used by parties to determine the eventual
candidate and are limited to their respective parties.

Mid-term elections are congressional elections staggered every couple
of years that don't co-incide with the presidential election. They are
open to all eligible voters.


>The exceptions being if you were smart and started putting money
>in a 401K (or other investments) many moons ago, or if you have
>money to put in the stock market and have been able to keep up
>with what the insider trader congresspeople/other administration
>members are buying and selling.

There's a twitter account called the "Pelosi Stock watch" where they
evaluate Nancy Pelosi's stock trades and compare her portfolio against
the market.

Not that she's the only one, it's an endemic problem.

I like Scott Galloway's take - pay them $1,000,000 a year and forbid
them from owning stock while they're in office. Now, let's make campaign finance a fixed stipend as well...

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Mike Powell wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Paving the Rose Garden was awful, and t-totally stupid. From the way
it sounds, though, the Kennedy Center may have already had some
troubles going on, and maybe no one wanted to address them because Kennedy's name is on the building.

Congress allocated almost $257 million to repairs recently. It's not
the executive branch's place to withhold funds allocated by Congress,
which is why he put himself on the board.



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I think he greatly wants to be remembered as one of the biggest presidential names in history, and he may well be, just not in
the way he hopes to be remembered..

He certainly seems to have it out for Kennedy's legacy - paving the
Rose garden, bringing the Kennedy Center to the brink of ruin...

Paving the Rose Garden was awful, and t-totally stupid. From the way

>it sounds, though, the Kennedy Center may have already had some troubles
>going on, and may be no one wanted to address them because Kennedy's
>name is on the building.

The original (J.F.) Kennedy name was made famous after his death
and as a president it seemed to me he was better loved by Americans
than most Presidents. Since then other Kennedys have been in politics
in fairly substacial roles as well..

But, that said, it can be hard to tell whether Trump wants the name
to be gone or not. After all, he did bring in Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
as the Secretary of Health. Of course it's hard to say if that Kennedy
is doing things that make the name better or worse..

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Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

But, that said, it can be hard to tell whether Trump wants the name
to be gone or not. After all, he did bring in Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
as the Secretary of Health. Of course it's hard to say if that Kennedy
is doing things that make the name better or worse..

Trump did that to get RFKJ off of the ballot, knowing another crackpot
on the republican ticket would have siphoned off votes from him, not
out of any sort of admiration for him. Or so I'd think.

Although, Trump's inside voice is non-existent. If he had issues with
RFKJ, I'm sure we'd hear about it.



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Mike Powell wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Paving the Rose Garden was awful, and t-totally stupid. From the way it sounds, though, the Kennedy Center may have already had some troubles going on, and maybe no one wanted to address them because Kennedy's name is on the building.

Congress allocated almost $257 million to repairs recently. It's not
the executive branch's place to withhold funds allocated by Congress,
which is why he put himself on the board.

I missed the news of the Congressional allocation. Yes, I agree!

Mike

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I like Scott Galloway's take - pay them $1,000,000 a year and forbid them from owning stock while they're in office. Now, let's make campaign
finance a fixed stipend as well...

One million a year is way, way TOO MUCH. They are no where near worth that much. The number should be less than six figures.

I think the idea was to make outside influence not worth the risk of
losing the salary - but human greed and absent moral compasses mean
we'd still see influence peddling in government.

Ahh, yes, in that context the higher amount makes sense, but I also agree that greed and absent moral compasses would mean $1 million would not be high enough to stop them. :(

IMHO, once upon a time there were people attracted to politics that had moral compasses. Seems like now, politics seems most attractive to those who either have broken ones or don't have them at all.

Mike

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The original (J.F.) Kennedy name was made famous after his death
and as a president it seemed to me he was better loved by Americans
than most Presidents. Since then other Kennedys have been in politics
in fairly substacial roles as well..

Part of that was because he was a younger man than recent Presidents. Also, IMHO, that perception we have now was influenced by his assassination. Compared to most of the Presidents in my lifetime, I do believe he was probably better liked before his untimely death, too.

But, that said, it can be hard to tell whether Trump wants the name
to be gone or not. After all, he did bring in Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
as the Secretary of Health. Of course it's hard to say if that Kennedy
is doing things that make the name better or worse..

IIRC, most of the Kennedy clan wishes that RFK Jr didn't have the Kennedy name. He is at odds with most of them, which might be part of what Trump likes about him.

Mike

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Trump did that to get RFKJ off of the ballot, knowing another crackpot
on the republican ticket would have siphoned off votes from him, not
out of any sort of admiration for him. Or so I'd think.

Although, Trump's inside voice is non-existent. If he had issues with
RFKJ, I'm sure we'd hear about it.

Yeah, this is right on all counts. I had forgot about the ploy to get him off the ballot which, BTW, only worked in some states. RFK Jr was still on ours because his departure from the race happened after our deadline for being removed. He did get some votes here.

Looking back, it might have been a good thing if RFK Jr had kept running.

Mike

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Hello Kurt!

** On Saturday 19.09.26 - 09:08, Kurt Weiske wrote to Mike Powell:

Congress allocated almost $257 million to repairs recently. It's not
the executive branch's place to withhold funds allocated by Congress,
which is why he put himself on the board.

It would seem to me that T placing himself (and his wife) on the K-Center board is a blatant conflict of interest, and therefore should not have been allowed.
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